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Justifying Death of Innocents with Halakha (Jewish Law)

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Professor Geoffrey Alderman to Rabbi David J Goldberg:

The Halachah is crystal clear. It is entirely legitimate to kill a rodef – that is to say, one who endangers the life of another – and this is true, incidentally, even if the rodef has not yet actually taken another life. So the Judaism that I practise permits what is generally referred to as “pre-emptive” military action.

Rabbi David J Goldberg to Professor Geoffrey Alderman:

I have no argument with your explanation about the status of the rodef in Jewish law (the Halachah) and the permissibility of taking pre-emptive action against him, except to add that the biblical law should be viewed in the context of a desert society and blood feuds between individuals and clans. That is why I disagree with your contention that in the context of modern Gaza this can be extended to include every member and supporter of Hamas – about 1 million people according to the election results. Or would you advise every innocent civilian and child to wear a large placard visible to Israeli jets proclaiming “Don’t blame me, I voted for Fatah”?

[From Comment is Free: Geoffrey Alderman vs. David Goldberg, Can Israeli actions in Gaza be justified on the basis of Jewish scripture?]

One commentator said:

Makes me glad that I am an atheist and I know why this is wrong.

:P

Religion Is the Opiate of the Masses

Full quotation of the above incomplete non-quotation supposedly from Karl Marx:

“The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly a struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is at the same time an expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sign of the oppressed creature, the sentiment of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of men, is a demand for their real happiness. The call to abandon their illusions about their conditions is a call to abandon a condition which requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, the embryonic criticism of this vale of tears of which religion is the halo.”

-Karl Marx.
Quoted in “Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right: Introduction.”
Robert C. Tucker, ed. The Marx-Engels Reader. 2nd ed. New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 1978. p. 54.

[Via Marx on religion: Dispelling more myths about socialism]

Written by cthulhu

May 22, 2008 at 9:31 pm